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Let’s Discuss: What’s It Like to Be a Professional Opinion Writer?

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Let’s Discuss: What’s It Like to Be a Professional Opinion Writer?

Welcome to Conversations With Journalists! In this new series, we invite students every two weeks to join a discussion about a New York Times article with a Times journalist and other teenagers from around the world. Learn more about the feature and find a schedule of the pieces we’ll be reading together in the future here.


What’s it like to share your opinions with millions of readers each week? How do you decide what to write about? How do you craft your arguments so they will be compelling to a wide audience? What impact has your writing had?

So far in this series we have featured reporters whose work is to gather facts and information to inform readers about a topic with as much objectivity as possible. The job of an opinion writer is different: Though they too are journalists who must gather reliable information, their role is to express a point of view about it.

Why are we featuring a Times Opinion writer now? Because our annual opinion-writing contest for students opens March 12, and we hope having a conversation with someone who does this kind of writing for a living can illuminate and inspire.

This year we’re inviting students to write open letters on the issues that matter to them. As you might already know if you’ve read the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s Letter From Birmingham Jail, an open letter is a literary device. Though it may seem to be intended for just one individual or group, and therefore usually reads like a personal letter, it is really a persuasive essay addressed to the public.

Our guest for this discussion is Margaret Renkl, a contributing Opinion writer for The New York Times. Her weekly column focuses on nature, politics and culture in the American South, and she often makes powerful use of the open letter format.

Whether you’re participating in our contest or not, we hope you’ll have many thoughts and questions for Ms. Renkl — about the role of an opinion columnist in a newspaper in general, and her role in particular; about how open letters work and when and why a writer might employ them; or about the moving pieces you’ll read below.

To join the conversation, just post to the comments by March 13.

We will be discussing two of Ms. Renkl’s pieces this week: “An Open Letter to John Lewis,” addressed to the civil rights leader after the news of his terminal cancer diagnosis, published Jan. 6, 2020, and “An Open Letter to Governor Lee on the Slaughter of Our Children,” written to the governor of Tennessee after a school shooting in Nashville, published March 29, 2023.

You might also consider her piece, “An Open Letter to Jimmy Carter, on His 100th Birthday,” published Sept. 30, 2024.

To learn more about Ms. Renkl’s work, you can also read some of her recent columns:

We’ll be joined by Margaret Renkl, a contributing Opinion writer, who reports from Nashville. She is the author of “Late Migrations: A Natural History of Love and Loss” (2019), “Graceland, at Last: Notes on Hope and Heartache From the American South” (2021) and “The Comfort of Crows: A Backyard Year” (2023). Since 2017, she has been a contributing Opinion writer for The Times, where her essays appear each Monday. She is a graduate of Auburn University and the University of South Carolina.

  • What parts of each essay — whether individual lines, paragraphs, quotes or anything else — stand out to you? Why?

  • Is there anything that challenges what you know or thought you knew? What did you learn?

  • What connections can you make between these pieces and your own life?

  • Is there anything missing from either essay that you wish was included? If so, what and why?

  • What questions do these pieces raise for you?

  • What would you like to ask or say to Ms. Renkl?

  • What would you like to ask or say to other teenagers who are joining this conversation with you?

  • Focus questions: What’s it like to be a professional opinion writer? How are these essays crafted to make them as persuasive as possible? Why might one choose to write in the format of an open letter rather than a traditional essay?

  • First, read the featured Opinion essays. Use the questions above to help you reflect on them.

  • Respond in the comments. Be sure to introduce yourself and then share your reactions to what you saw and read. Ask Ms. Renkl a question, either about the pieces or about her work in general.

  • Post your response by Thursday, March 13. Ms. Renkl will begin responding by Monday, March 17.

  • Come back to the conversation to read Ms. Renkl’s replies and to respond. What is something she shared that intrigued you? What is something you learned about her reporting process? What questions do you still have?

  • Remember that you can reply to and recommend other students’ comments throughout the two weeks. We hope you’ll keep the conversation going.

  • Lastly, remember: We are timing this Conversation With Journalists with the start of our second annual Open Letter Contest for Students, which is open to teenagers around the world. If you’d like to read the work of last year’s teen winners, visit this page.

    (Not sure what to ask? Check out this list of more than 20 ideas (PDF) — but don’t feel that you have to stick to them!)


Students 13 and older in the United States and Britain, and 16 and older elsewhere, are invited to comment. All comments are moderated by the Learning Network staff, but please keep in mind that once your comment is accepted, it will be made public and may appear in print.

Are you a teacher or student who has feedback on this new feature or would like to suggest a Times piece for future discussion? Please post a comment here.

Expert Thinking and AI (Part 2)

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Expert Thinking and AI (Part 2)

Generative chatbots like ChatGPT also have a remarkable ability to pass for human-like performance in some limited social contexts, scoring well on standardized exams assessments typically used to measure aptitude and performance in a field (2). However, the lack of agency in chatbots means that they are unable to take responsibility for their actions.They cannot fully be members of the community if they operate outside of the ethics and morality of that community. If a generative chatbot makes up data we call it “hallucinations”, if a professional makes up or misrepresents their knowledge on a topic, they can be stripped of their credentials. Researchers who make up data are often stripped of their funding, title, and degree, medical doctors can have their license taken away, and layers can be disbarred.

AI also currently lack the ability to demonstrate physical expertise in a robust way, though there are plenty of companies working to make AI robots that unironically look like the machines that either turn against you or teach you how to love in scifi movies.

While chatbots may not have all of the dimensions of human expertise, they are often seen as potential tools to either give laypeople or novices access to expertise, or help them to develop expertise. A common refrain that I see in conversations around students using ChatGPT is that we should be teaching students how to use these tools. The logic here is that the horse is well out of the barn, and so it would be a mistake to ignore the widespread use of this tool and instead embrace it. It is worth exploring, then, how chatbots might be used to support learning.

One potential area where chatbots could be used is in intelligent tutor systems (ITS), which are designed to help support student learning by providing a simulated learning environment and/or responsive chatbot to help coach students through the learning process. Imundo et al. (2024) provides a brief overview of several of these systems, and while some of them show some promise, they generally are in very early stages (2). For example, Betty’s Brain ITS is a computer agent that students can teach material to and then test to see how well Betty’s Brain learned the information. While early tests showed promise, students who taught Betty made more complete concept maps than those who did not (6), classroom implementation presented some challenges as there was a wide variation in how well students were able to use the program (7). It is worth noting that these tutor systems are specifically designed to help students with specific strategies or within specific domains.

Within medical education, one of the use cases for chatbots is to generate clinical practice scenarios (8). There is a large demand for clinical practice scenarios within medical education because these form the basis of how students are assessed on their licensing exams (see: USMLE). A common study practice for students preparing for these exams is to engage with as many practice questions as they can – potentially thousands of practice questions. Access to these practice questions is typically through third-party resources that can cost hundreds of dollars to access (a one-month subscription to Uworld costs $319, a base subscription to AMBOSS is $19/month, but it costs $149 to have full access to their library of practice questions, TrueLearn starts with a base price of $149 for a month of access to its question bank). In this context, it makes sense why students might turn to ChatGPT to generate practice questions. A recent news article from AAMC reports on an AI tool that was developed to create questions for a course about the blood system. They report that 85% of the questions it created met the criteria and, after human review, 75% of the questions were given to students as study material. While AI might be a useful tool to aid in question creation, it is important to note that it is still prone to errors and biases and thus needs a fair degree of human oversight to ensure that medical students are not being taught inaccurate information (8). Again, I note that a creation of a specific generative tool trained for a specific purpose might be useful with human oversight.

As noted above, chatbots have the ability to assist with learning. However, these tools have the most utility when they are designed for a specific purpose and are used with direct oversight from experts. Experts have the ability to help develop an AI tool to solve a specific problem, determine the appropriate training data for the AI, and check the quality of the output. The last part is incredibly important as even a small error rate can have disastrous consequences if the tool is used on a large scale. It is difficult to estimate the error rate of ChatGPT given the range of prompts and requests it is asked to complete and estimates vary depending on the complexity of the task it is asked to complete. In the case of a complex task like replicating the results of a systematic review, generative chatbots like ChatGPT and Bard produce misleading and incorrect information 28.6% – 91.4% of the time (9). OpenAI estimates that its most accurate ChatGPT model is only misleading or wrong .8% of the time. Even if we go with the conservative estimate of .8%, OpenAI also reports that 200 million people use ChatGPT each week. That works out to 1,600,000 misleading or flat out incorrect responses each week. How do you, as a non-expert in a field, know whether or not you’ve gotten one of the million or so misleading or incorrect responses? 

AI errors, particularly errors from generative chatbots, are especially concerning because these tools are particularly good at getting us to trust them. Garry, Kenkel, & Foster (2024) outlined how we decide how real or true something is, a process called reality monitoring (10). When we decide how real or true a piece of information is, we tend to rely on heuristics – does that sound familiar? Was the source confident? We can also rely on more effortful processing to determine the truthfulness of information; analyzing logic, checking sources, etc. Garry et al., highlight several ways in which chatbots exploit reality monitoring to seem more trustworthy. First, the conversational way in which people engage with chatbots help to imbue it with person-like characteristics. Second, chatbots often pause when the model is processing the request. ChatGPT will explain that it is “thinking”, “translating the problem”, “defining variables”, “figuring out equations”, and then “adjusting the calculations”. All of this gives the impression that ChatGPT is giving you a slow and deliberate answer. Third, unlike experts who tend to focus on the nuance of their field, chatbots give precise and definitive answers, which people tend to interpret as confidence in credible and accurate answers. All of these make it feel like we are interacting with a trustworthy source, our own personal assistant. It can be tempting, then, for people to think of AI as more objective and perhaps even more credible than expert sources (9). 

Perhaps the biggest concern I have about using AI as a tool for learning is that it has the potential to remove deliberate practice for learners. In the main article that I’ve covered here, Imundo and colleagues largely assumed a good-faith engagement with AI (2). They highlighted ways in which purpose-built and supervised AI tools might used, with supervision, to improve learning or practice. As I noted above, this is very different from how I hear AI being used in education. My friends who teach in K-12 and my colleagues who teach at the university level are not dealing with an influx of targeted, specific AI models that students are using. They’re dealing with students using ChatGPT to outline, refine, and some times just wholesale write papers and complete assignments. I’ve noted at the top of each of these posts that, to the best of my knowledge, I have not used generative AI to write this post. As I edit this in Squarespace an AI tool in the editing pane (next to where I can choose my font and heading style) is constantly flashing. When I searched for articles to explain AI, an AI overview was the first thing to appear. I do most of my writing in Google Docs and it occasionally gives me a little popup asking if I want to try their AI tool, Gemini. It is, frankly, almost harder to not use generative AI at this point. If students are using AI for everything it’s at least in some part because AI is everywhere.

Listen: ‘The Good Whale Podcast: Episode 1”

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Listen: ‘The Good Whale Podcast: Episode 1”

This transcript was created using speech recognition software. While it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. Please review the episode audio before quoting from this transcript and email transcripts@nytimes.com with any questions.

announcer

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daniel alarcón

Our story begins in the early ‘90s with an orca named Keiko. He’s just entering his teenage years, living at an amusement park in Mexico City called Reino Aventura, or Adventure Kingdom. He’s not from there, but for the last seven years, a tank in this polluted, landlocked mega city more than 7,000 feet above sea level has been his home.

Before that, it was a Marine Park in Canada, where he was bullied by the other orcas. Before that, it was a tank in a big concrete building in Iceland, where he was kept for about three years, unable to see the sky. And even before that, it was the North Atlantic, where he was captured and separated from his mom and the rest of his whale pod, probably when he was around two.

[THEME MUSIC]

I don’t think I really understood how traumatic this could have been until I learned that male killer whales are essentially mama’s boys, and not just when they’re young, but basically, their entire lives. Even as adults, they might swim by their mother’s side. They depend on her. A mother orca might catch a fish, bite it in two, and give half to her son. This kind of closeness is documented in male orcas well into their 20s or 30s. And Keiko was deprived of the chance to have that.

At age two, Keiko would probably still have been swimming in his mother’s slipstream, still mastering the language of his pod. He wouldn’t have yet learned how to hunt on his own. Despite weighing more than a thousand pounds, in developmental terms, Keiko would have been just a baby, ripped from his mother, from everything he’d ever known, and from a life that may have been largely spent by her side.

So of course, it’s hard to talk about a pool in a Mexican amusement park as a substitute for any of that. But what I can say is that the people who work there, they truly, sincerely love Keiko. They are, for all intents and purposes, his pod.

renata fernandez

Well, obviously, my purpose in life at that time, it was Keiko and Keiko only.

daniel alarcón

That’s Renata Fernandez, who worked with Keiko at Reino Aventura.

renata fernandez

Before having kids, he was my kid. He was my baby. I mean, I had boyfriends back then, but they were not that important as Keiko. I had to break up with two boyfriends because I spent most of my time with him. I mean, I worked there for seven years, and it was the best seven years of my life.

daniel alarcón

Renata started at Reino Aventura when she was 20 years old. She chopped frozen fish, mopped the pool deck, and eventually worked her way up to be one of Keiko’s trainers. Working with a killer whale had long been a dream of hers. And even now, when she talks about Keiko, she sounds the way a mother might when reminiscing about her kids’ childhood. She remembers all of Keiko’s favorite games, his favorite toys, his favorite playmate.

renata fernandez

His best friend was a dolphin named Richie. And they would just play nonstop. And between shows, he would just have Richie on top of him, just giving him a ride.

daniel alarcón

If Keiko had his moods or played favorites, well, Renata says, that was just part of who he was.

renata fernandez

Keiko would choose who to play with. I mean, we had this very young girl. She was 16 or 17. And she would come into the water. And it was like a magnet for Keiko. He would love her, love to be with her. And why? Nobody knows. It’s like chemistry.

daniel alarcón

In the off season, when there were no weekday shows at Reino Aventura, Renata and the other trainers swam and played with Keiko for hours. Most of the people who worked with Keiko were young, none older than 30, and they made Keiko the center of their lives. They fed him by hand, gave him belly rubs all the time. They even set up a special hose just for him. He loved to be sprayed. And as far as anyone could tell, Keiko genuinely seemed to it.

renata fernandez

We had this little boat. And there was a rope tied to the front, a long rope. But we would put it in the water. And three girls would get hop in it. And he would pull us all over the pool. And then he would pull it down, just to make us fall from the boat. And that was over and over. And obviously, we would laugh and then get on top of the little boat. And then he would give us a ride again. So he would have a blast.

[SOFT MUSIC]

daniel alarcón

There’s nothing about that last sentence of Renata’s that could be fact checked, not a word. We don’t know if Keiko was having a blast. We can’t know. Maybe he was dragging the trainers around because he was bored, or because he loved these friendly people who fed him every day. Maybe what his humans interpreted as Keiko having fun was really just habit or even defeat like, why not let the people ride? They seem to like it.

We can’t really know what animals are thinking, so we do our best with the information we have, making educated guesses about the inner lives of the creatures we love. And that’s what this story is really about. An imperfect attempt to understand what might be best for an animal who can’t speak for himself, the intention to make things right for him, to make things better.

Everything I’m going to tell you in the next six episodes was set in motion by these good intentions. And by everything, I mean an unprecedented global campaign, a high-profile, high-stakes science experiment, and a debate about what exactly we, humans, owe the natural world.

At the center of it all is Keiko, who would become, almost by accident, a symbol for all whales, for the health of the oceans, for the very concept of wildness, but who was also an individual orca with a name and specific history and trauma and character, a character with fears and limitations that no human could ever hope to interpret with any certainty, not that they wouldn’t try. In fact, lots of well-intentioned people would claim they knew exactly what was best for this whale. And they would be arguing and fighting over those interpretations for years.

From Serial Productions and “The New York Times,” this is the good whale. I’m Daniel Alarcón.

It wasn’t just Renata and the other trainers who loved Keiko, or even just the people in Mexico City, who went to see Keiko at Reino Aventura. It seems like pretty much every kid in Mexico knew him. He was beloved, a kind of national mascot.

renata fernandez

He was like the pet, Mexico’s pet.

daniel alarcón

One person I spoke compared him to a Mexican Mickey Mouse. And in fact, a lot of people assumed that Keiko was Mexican, actually from Mexico. They never considered that he could have come from anywhere else. He was just theirs.

We talked to lots of people who grew up in Mexico City in the ‘80s and ‘90s, and they said again and again that Keiko had an aura about him, that seeing him at Reino Aventura was like hanging out with your 7,000 pound best friend, the killer whale you told your secrets to, what was happening at school, who your crush was. It was that kind of relationship.

If you watched television in Mexico in the late ‘80s or early ‘90s, chances were that sooner or later, you’d see Keiko. He was in Reino Aventura commercials, of course. There were pop songs dedicated to him. [POP MUSIC]

[SINGING IN SPANISH]

He even starred in a telenovela as himself.

[SPEAKING SPANISH]

And then there were the shows, when visitors got to see their beloved pet up close. Reino Aventura doesn’t exist anymore, not under that name, anyway. It’s since been acquired by Six Flags. But back in its heyday, in the early ‘90s, Keiko was the star attraction. And these shows, they were legendary. At the peak of his fame, there might have been 200 people lining up A. Couple of hours before the gates opened. A pair of clowns marched around playing trumpets, entertaining Keiko’s fans as they filed in.

On weekends, there were three shows a day, more than 3,000 seats consistently packed. I had Renata walked me through one of the routines. First it was the sea lions, then the dolphins, including Richie, and then —

renata fernandez

We would open the pen and Keiko would come out, jumping.

[children talking, laughing]

[SCREAMS]

So the people would just go crazy, obviously. So that was the show. And after that, all the trainers would come out and go greet people and take pictures with people.

daniel alarcón

There were so many people clamoring to see Keiko up close that his veterinarian told me they set up a kind of receiving line. He even compared the crowds to the believers who wait in line to see the Virgin of Guadalupe, that reverential, that devoted.

So that’s Keiko, occasional TV star, quasi saint, telepathic confidante, and best friend to countless Mexican children. And this was his life, constant attention from his trainers, games with his favorite dolphin buddies, performances for thousands of adoring fans. But it was all about to change.

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

In 1992, Reino Aventura was set to close for some much-needed renovations, which meant Keiko had some free time, six months with no shows and no crowds. So when a production company proposed to film a movie with Keiko, the park’s director, Oscar Porter, thought, what the hell. Why not? It wasn’t much money, but it might keep Keiko entertained.

Once he said yes to the movie, Porter didn’t give it much more thought. He was busy overseeing all the details of the park’s upgrades, the installation of new rides, new contracts with vendors, more than 600 employees. He told me he didn’t even read the script.

But that script is why we’re telling you this story, why you probably already know who Keiko is, even if it’s by a different name. The studio behind this proposal was the American movie powerhouse, Warner Brothers. And Keiko was about to get the name you might know him by, Willy, “Free Willy.”

archived recording

You can do it, man. You can be free.

[SPLASH]

daniel alarcón

If you’re my age, mid 40s, you’ve probably seen the movie. But if not, or it’s been a minute, here’s a quick refresher. Lauren Shuler Donner, one of the producers, told me the movie could be boiled down to this, bad kid, bad whale. The bad kid is a moody 12-year-old named Jesse.

archived recording 1

You’re that graffiti kid, aren’t you?

archived recording 2

I guess.

daniel alarcón

The bad whale is Willie, captured and separated from his pod, stuck in a small pool in a ramshackle aquarium. The park staff find him stubborn, hard to train. He has three black spots on the underside of his jaw. His dorsal fin droops to one side, a killer whale’s version of an emo haircut. Jesse decides he has to save Willie’s life, get him back to the ocean, back to his family. And somehow, against all kinds of obstacles, he does.

archived recording 2

Come on, Willie, I know you can do it, boy. I know you can jump this wall. Come on. I believe in you, Willie. You can do it. You can be free. Come on. You can jump it.

daniel alarcón

The movie poster is what most people remember. It’s the image that was absorbed into the culture, a still from the film’s climax, Willie, in mid-flight against an orange sunset, jumping over a breakwater. The ocean beckons. The boy stands just below Willy, beneath an arc of sea spray, a triumphant arm pointing to the sky. The tagline reads, “how far would you go for a friend?”

When it came to who would play Willy, it wasn’t like Warner Brothers had a ton of killer whales to choose from. A producer on the film told us her team approached a few different marine parks, but people weren’t excited about the message of the movie, and wanted changes to the script. Finally, they landed on Reino Aventura, who signed off, as we mentioned, without even reading it.

And Keiko, it turns out, was perfect for the part. See, for the film to work, the producers needed something very specific, a kind of sad-looking whale, living in less than ideal conditions. They needed a whale kids would feel sorry for, a whale children would want to save.

And the fact is, while Keiko might have been happy, he wasn’t actually that healthy. He was a couple thousand pounds underweight, not because he was underfed, but probably because the warm water affected his appetite. He had a skin rash, too, something called papillomavirus, which looked bad, even though the veterinarian at Reino Aventura said it wasn’t that serious.

But most striking of all was his tank. It was small, disturbingly small. One of the film’s producers joked that it was smaller than some swimming pools in Beverly Hills. The water he swam in wasn’t even seawater, just fresh water with salt added. Renata says they checked the salt levels frequently, and they weren’t under any illusions that Keiko’s living conditions were ideal. She told me Reino Aventura looked into building a larger pool, but just couldn’t make it work, financially.

So strip away for a moment almost everything I’ve told you. Forget the love and the games and the trainers and the fans, and see instead, what the camera sees, Keiko, a smaller than average killer whale with a droopy dorsal fin, swimming alone in a tiny, shallow pool. He was exactly what the movie required.

Free Willy was released on July 16, 1993. And the reviews were positive, at least until journalists started asking what was up with the star of the movie, and news reports about Keiko’s subpar living conditions and health began spreading.

archived recording 3

The movie “Free Willy” has a great ending. But real life didn’t treat the real star of the box office hit the way it treated Willy in the movie. Not at all.

archived recording 4

News tonight that will surely upset all those children who saw the movie “Free Willy” this summer. The whale that starred in the movie is sick and may die unless his living conditions are improved.

daniel alarcón

Soon enough, Keiko had gone from Mexico’s beloved pet to Mexico’s dying orca. And kids around the world were not happy.

archived recording 5

I’m writing this letter to ask you to consider helping the killer whale, Keiko, in Mexico.

archived recording 6

We would like everybody to donate $1. And we’d get lots of money, so we can try to help save this whale.

archived recording 7

Here, this whale that people have made millions off of, and now he’s just sitting in this tank, dying.

archived recording 8

I don’t think Keiko deserves to die.

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

daniel alarcón

In Mexico, Reino Aventura and the staff were suddenly having to defend themselves in ways they hadn’t before, trying to convince crusading celebrities and animal-rights activists that they did indeed care about Keiko’s well-being. When “Life Magazine” published an article describing Keiko’s tank as “a cesspool,” Reino Aventura Director, Oscar Porter, sent a letter, claiming the magazine had gotten it all wrong, that Keiko’s water was, quote, “clean and clear.”

Back in Hollywood, Warner Bros was getting hammered too. Bags and bags of mail from kids arrived at the offices, all demanding the same thing, Free Willy, or rather, free Keiko.

And so if the studio wanted to avoid a PR nightmare and not break the hearts of millions of children, then it was clear. Someone had to save him in real life. That’s after the break.

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

For centuries, we humans hunted and killed whales as if their numbers were infinite. And over time, we got better and better at it, more efficient, more ruthless, extracting more value from each kill. We harvested their blubber, their organs, their baleen, their meat, and it was all transformed into everyday commercial products, from makeup to heating oil.

More than 700,000 whales were killed in the 1960s. Whaling was a huge global industry, with profits to match. The killing of orcas was a little different, since they didn’t have much to offer us, commercially speaking. But humans being humans, we killed them anyway, for fear, for sport, for blood lust.

Fishermen trawling for herring or salmon saw them as competitors. So they would shoot them on sight. The US Navy would use orca pods for target practice. All told, it’s estimated that some 3 million individual whales were killed by humans in the 20th century.

By the early 1970s, scientists understood that whales were far more scarce than we’d all previously thought, and began warning that the steep declines they were seeing in wild populations might be irreversible. In response, the Save the Whales movement was born, with the goal of ending commercial whaling worldwide, a bold, quixotic idea to convince the countries that still practice whaling to simply stop.

I’m telling you all this because in a way, everything that happens to Keiko a couple of decades later is a result of it, of this idea that these creatures were worth protecting. And it’s also when this next significant person in Keiko’s life enters the story, a guy by the name of Dave Phillips.

dave phillips

I was pretty young then. I was like two years out of college.

daniel alarcón

It was the late ‘70s. The Save the Whales campaign was just starting to pick up steam. And Dave wanted in. So he packed up his life, drove his turquoise Volkswagen Rabbit out to California, and soon joined the movement to do his part.

dave phillips

I was green. There were other people there that were a lot more experienced than I was. I was more likely to be out there with hiking boots and long hair and just getting dirty.

daniel alarcón

So yeah, he was kind of a hippie. But he was a hippie with a degree in biology, who found he was too impatient to spend his adult life in a lab, studying the minutiae of wildlife without doing anything to save it. Given the scale of the environmental crisis he saw, science moved too slowly for him.

The central message for the Save the Whales campaign was simple. Whales are not commodities. They’re living beings. This message was everywhere. There were bumper stickers and T-shirts emblazoned with the words, Save the Whales, the slogan itself becoming so ubiquitous, it was almost cliche, played as a punchline.

There were Save the Whales marches and rallies across the world. And Dave was there for all of it. Most importantly, he was there in 1982, a pivotal moment in his career, when the International Whaling Commission caved to the pressure, and voted to impose a worldwide moratorium on commercial whaling. They’d done it. They’d saved the whales from what many felt was their almost certain extinction.

So Dave learned two things. One, to succeed, your message had to be everywhere. If your slogan becomes a joke, so be it. At least people are hearing the message. And two, whales are magic. It’s that simple. They’re just one of those species that people fall in love with.

[SENTIMENTAL MUSIC]

A decade later, in the ‘90s, Dave’s still in the environmental movement, still advocating for wild whales and attending meetings. And it’s at one of these meetings in Glasgow when he gets a call. He’s out to dinner with a few colleagues when somebody comes up to the table and says —

dave phillips

Is Mr. Phillips here? We have a call for you. Mr. Donner is calling. And I’m like, oh my goodness, this is Dick Donner, calling from Hollywood. What is — and there’s Dick. And he’s all in a flutter.

daniel alarcón

I haven’t introduced you to Dick Donner yet, but I did mention his wife, Lauren Shuler Donner. Together, they were a legit Hollywood power couple, producing or directing blockbusters like “The Goonies” and “Superman.” Dick has since passed away, but Lauren told me that they both were self-proclaimed animal lunatics. David actually worked with the couple before. They asked him to consult on a few lines of pro-dolphin dialogue in the buddy cop movie, “Lethal Weapon 2.”

archived recording (nick)

Hey, hey, what’s that you’re eating, Dad?

archived recording (roger)

I’m eating my tuna fish sandwich.

archived recording (all)

Tuna?

archived recording (carrie)

Daddy, you can’t eat tuna.

archived recording (roger)

I can’t eat what?

archived recording (carrie)

Dad killed Flipper.

archived recording (trish)

We’re boycotting tuna, honey, because they kill the dolphins that get caught in the nets. Only albacore.

daniel alarcón

It was small, barely a scene, but Dick felt good about it. And now he had something bigger in mind, “Free Willy,” a movie he and Lauren were putting together. And Dick wanted Dave’s help.

dave phillips

And he’s like, this movie is going to be big. He’s like, it’s going to be a great movie. And I’m doing this because I want to make a difference for whales. And I want to know, are you in?

daniel alarcón

The whaling ban Dave had fought for all those years ago protected whales from commercial slaughter. But some species were still captured or killed on a smaller scale. The way Dave saw it, Dick and Lauren were offering him an opportunity to finish the job he’d started all those years ago, a chance to save the rest of the whales.

Dave and the producers started with something simple, an 800 number that would pop up on the screen at the end of the movie credits. The idea was that people would call, leave their address, and Dave’s organization, Earth Island Institute, would send them a packet of information about the plight of whales across the world, how they could help.

dave phillips

The kit was steps you can take, like, go watch whales in the wild instead of going to watch them in captivity, and put pressure on the International Whaling Commission to stop killing whales.

daniel alarcón

Nothing too elaborate. You called the number, you got a kit. But fast forward a year, and once the movie was released and word got out that the star of “Free Willy” was sick and still living in a tiny pool in Mexico, well, calling an 800 number and getting a kit just didn’t feel like enough. Dave remembers Dick phoning him up again and saying —

dave phillips

We’re being crucified down here. You’ve got to help us.

daniel alarcón

Now, Dick was proposing something far more ambitious, something that honestly, sounded a little nuts —

dave phillips

He said, you’ve got to get involved in saving Keiko.

daniel alarcón

— rescuing Keiko from his life in captivity and releasing him back into the ocean, like in the movie.

Did you immediately say, this is something I can do? Or were you like, this man is crazy?

dave phillips

I was like, it was just dizzying because I’m starting to think, wait, how does this even work?

daniel alarcón

What fans of the movie wanted was to see their favorite celebrity orca back in the ocean. But that wasn’t so simple. First off, nothing quite this ambitious had ever been attempted. True, other captive marine mammals had been released to the wild, but they hadn’t been in captivity nearly as long as Keiko.

So saving Keiko would require an extraordinary effort. Dick Donner wanted Dave to do it, but this wasn’t exactly Dave’s specialty. His whole career had been focused on big, huge problems, protecting the ocean and saving wild whales, plural. What Dick was proposing in response to the public outcry around the movie was much narrower in scope, saving the whale, singular.

Dave remembers telling Dick Donner, essentially, thanks, but I’m not the right guy for this job. But it seems Dick wouldn’t take no for an answer.

dave phillips

He was like, nobody else can do this. You have to do this. You’ve got to do this. The kids are depending on it. Everybody is depending on it. You’ve got to do this. Will you try?

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

daniel alarcón

And there was something about this that resonated. Think of it this way. If you’re Dave or an environmentalist of his generation, crazy doesn’t necessarily mean impossible. Just a few years before, in 1990, an estimated 200 million people took part in Earth Day celebrations, the most ever, by far.

This is the decade of the Earth Summit in Rio, the Kyoto Protocol, big, coordinated global actions to combat climate change and environmental damage. In 1985, scientists announced that they’d discovered a hole in the ozone layer. And by the ‘90s, an international treaty was in place to ban some of the chemicals thought to have created it. And it seemed to work. The ozone layer began to heal itself.

Even I remember, and I was just a kid. Those years were my childhood, a time I remember as fundamentally optimistic. We learned about separating our trash in school, reduce, reuse, recycle imprinted on the brain. We learned about the Amazon and the dangers of climate change, which still felt so far away. We didn’t despair because we thought we could still work together to save the planet, that if people just knew what was happening, we’d do the right thing, and that the right thing would be clear to all of us.

That’s the moment we’re in, the moment Dave’s in. And so sure, saving Keiko sounds a bit nutty. But maybe if you’ve seen what he’s seen, that sort of thing doesn’t scare you. So Dave said, OK, I’ll check it out. I’ll fly down to Mexico City and meet Keiko. He was, if not hopeful, intrigued, until he got there and realized, this is a terrible idea.

By the time Dave visited, Keiko was a teenager, and had been living in Mexico City for about 8 and 1/2 years. Dave could see right away, this captive whale was nowhere near ready to live in the ocean. A wild orca can swim over a hundred miles a day. Keiko was basically the aquatic equivalent of a couch potato.

dave phillips

First time I ever went to Mexico to see Keiko, I was completely freaked out. I was just — I was sitting up in the bleachers, looking down at this whale, in this tiny pool in Mexico City. And he didn’t look good.

He swam in very small circles. And he could make it across his pool in just a matter of seconds. It was very, very poor facility. I almost started crying, really, to tell you the truth. I was just hit by it, saying, this is just — this just can’t work.

daniel alarcón

I asked Dave to tick through the reasons Keiko was not an ideal candidate to rewild. And there were many. Before they could even think of releasing him back into the ocean, Keiko needed to get rid of his papillomavirus, but also get stronger, healthier, put on weight. And there was no way he could do that in his current tank at Reino Aventura.

dave phillips

And where are we supposed to bring him? We’re not bringing him into — we couldn’t bring him into the captive facility. I’m thinking, where are we going to go? We’re not going to take him to some place where he’s having to perform or be in a captive environment where they’re making money off of these whales. We couldn’t do that. So we’re going to have to build a place. And that’s just a step one.

daniel alarcón

The bill for that alone would probably be millions of dollars. And then they’d have to spend years and millions more teaching him the most basic ocean survival skills, and pray that some of those lessons took. Keiko had lived in the care of humans and without his family since he was around two, missing out on years of life in a pod, years of company and hunting and language and what I can only think of as camaraderie, the kind of social environment that makes a killer whale a killer whale.

He had millions of human fans, but not a single orca friend. There were so many things he’d never learned. Not only did Keiko not know how to hunt for food, he didn’t know how to eat live fish. Think about that. If you put a live fish in his mouth, this killer whale wouldn’t eat it.

And language, Keiko had stopped making most of the sounds in a wild whale’s repertoire years before. Pods have different dialects, and it was unlikely Keiko even remembered the dialect he spoke before his capture. This was crucially important to his survival. Orcas very rarely live alone in the open ocean, so if he was to make it out there, Dave knew Keiko would have to be integrated into a pod, his original pod, preferably. But if he didn’t speak their language, that was going to be difficult.

And then there was the small detail that no one knew for certain which pod that might be, or where to find them. Somewhere in the North Atlantic, near Iceland, presumably.

dave phillips

How are we going to get him back to Iceland? It’s a whaling nation. Are you kidding me? What? We’re going to go over to Iceland and convince them that we want to bring back this whale because the world wants to save him?

daniel alarcón

Did you do a back of the envelope, what’s this going to cost thing, on the plane back?

dave phillips

Yeah, exactly, before, even — while I was down there and on the way back. I lined it out. I was way over $10 million. And at that point, I pretty much just stashed it back in my pack, saying, I don’t know about this. It’s just — we’re not used to things with six figures behind it.

I can see about 10 impossible steps here.

daniel alarcón

So 10 impossible steps, at least. But let’s be real. For Dave, it was also one giant opportunity. Up until this point, Dave had been thinking about Keiko the way everyone in the world was thinking about Keiko, as one individual killer whale in need of saving. But what if he allowed himself to see it differently?

He’d experienced firsthand the hold that whales had over people at anti-whaling marches across the world. He’d seen the power that media campaigns could wield with the Save the Whales movement. This could be something much bigger. What if Keiko, the individual, could become Keiko the symbol? What if you could use Keiko to tell a story about the ocean itself?

dave phillips

You’re talking about trying to protect all the oceans, and that those are the big issues. Those are the big, huge, unsolvable problems, global warming, et cetera. But they’re so diffuse, people can’t see acidification rising in the oceans. They can’t see the coral reefs dying out most of the time. They’re not seeing it. It’s too broad to say, the oceans are dying.

There are no grab points. There are no things to manifest what’s at risk. But whales are one of the things that is just so otherworldly, so majestic, just incredibly, amazingly intelligent, social, powerful. And that means something. It hits people in a different way than talking about the threats to the ocean ecosystems.

And then that that’s what got me over my own view that, this is only one whale. It’s like, yeah, he’s one whale, but he’s going to be the most famous, or he could be the most famous whale in the world.

daniel alarcón

And Dave knew you could do a lot with that kind of star power, with that kind of attention. So he set aside his doubts and decided that, yes, as absurd as it sounded, he was all in.

Once Dave committed to getting Keiko out of Mexico, the next step was logistics. And what I’m about to say is pretty obvious, but it’s worth saying anyway. Moving an orca is not easy.

One of the first things Dave did was create a whole new organization, the Free Willy Keiko Foundation. The US Humane Society chipped in a million dollars. Dave secured a couple million more from a billionaire cell-phone magnate.

Warner Bros. Also agreed to put in $2 million, which sounds like a lot until you consider they made $150 million on “Free Willy.” And by this point, the sequel “Free Willy 2,” was already in production. Still, with that money, Dave was able to convince a small marine park in Oregon to let the Foundation build them a new, much bigger pool, just for Keiko.

And so now, all Dave needed was the whale, which you might assume would be the hard part, given that Keiko was the main attraction at Reino Aventura. But it turned out that Oscar Porter, the director of Reino Aventura, wasn’t opposed to the idea of giving him up. He had a whole park to run. And managing his most famous attraction had become an all-consuming headache. There were journalists and activists to deal with, Mexican television stars and singers calling to arrange private swims with Keiko.

Porter told me he was spending three hours a day dealing with Keiko-related nonsense, which is a lot, sure. But most worrying of all was what some of the outside veterinarians were saying, that Keiko might die soon. Porter really didn’t want that to happen at Reino Aventura.

So over the course of several months, Dave and Oscar Porter made a deal. Reino Aventura agreed to donate Keiko to Dave’s Foundation for free.

archived recording (dave phillips)

Today, we are proud to announce that we have reached agreement on a formal plan, a workable plan.

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

daniel alarcón

In February 1995, it was announced to the world that Keiko would be leaving Reino Aventura for his new temporary home at an aquarium on the Oregon Coast, in an enormous new tank, with cold seawater. Dave laid out a vision for Keiko’s future, invoking the plot to “Free Willy 2,” which would hit theaters a few months later.

archived recording (dave phillips)

And in that film, Willy is reunited with a mate, and has a child, and lives happily. This is our goal. We would love to see the situation in which Keiko could have a mate and could be able to eventually be released to the wild.

daniel alarcón

Rescue, rehab, release. That was Dave’s ultimate plan, even if the last part seemed improbable, at best. For Keiko’s trainer Renata, and many of the staff that worked closely with Keiko, the decision to let him leave was heartbreaking, even if they knew it was the right one. Giving him up was a kind of noble, even maternal sacrifice. That’s how Renata saw it, which of course, didn’t make it hurt any less. Goodbyes are like that, especially when you can’t explain what the future holds. You feel guilty, like you’re betraying a friend.

And across Mexico, a lot of people were feeling this way. They wanted him to stay. They wished he could stay. But letting him go was a sacrifice they were willing to make because they loved him, and they wanted what was best for him, which is why it was so offensive to Renata and many others I talked to, to hear how the story was being told in the US, that Keiko was being saved from a terrible life in Mexico.

Do you feel like there was an element of ah, Mexico, you know how things are down there?

renata fernandez

Of course.

daniel alarcón

— a bit of — yeah.

renata fernandez

Oh of course. It’s like, yeah, we have to always help the little brother because he does everything wrong. I’m not saying — I don’t want to say that this is the best place for an animal, obviously. But I’m trying to say that when he was there, he got a lot of attention. He got all the attention. We would all the time play. And he would love that, absolutely love that.

We did the best we could. We hired the best people. We wanted the best for Keiko. And we donated Keiko without receiving nothing, not one cent in return.

daniel alarcón

A few days before Keiko was scheduled to leave Mexico, the Reino Aventura staff threw him one last party, a kind of final spring-break bash. Everyone was invited, current trainers, former staff, all of Keiko’s friends, his extended human pod. +

renata fernandez

So we were like 30 people in this place, in the dolphinarium. We made a big luncheon. And we all got into the water. And we all played with Keiko. And there was a lot of crying. And it was fun. And Keiko was so happy. And he would play with all of them.

daniel alarcón

Wait a second. So you’re telling me, Renata, that 30 people got in the pool with Keiko at the same time, to play?

renata fernandez

Yes. Yeah. You would never get this in SeaWorld or Marineland or any other aquarium in the world. If you tell this to a veterinarian from these huge aquariums, they would tell you that that’s not a good idea because he would — the animal gets stressed or — I don’t know what would they say, but he was so happy. He was so happy.

daniel alarcón

On January 6, 1996, it was time for Keiko to go. They decided to move him in the middle of the night for a few reasons, to avoid the heat and the traffic, but also the crowds that were sure to want to say their goodbyes. Moving any object as big as a killer whale is an engineering problem. But when that object is a living thing, there’s an added complication.

Getting Keiko out of Reino Aventura and onto a plane would depend in no small measure on the cooperation of Keiko himself. And that required training. For months, they’d work on it with him. First, he’d swim into a small, shallow pool, and then into a custom-made sling, swimming in and out of it, weeks spent just getting comfortable with this process.

He had to be comfortable because once he was in that sling, he’d stay wrapped in it for at least 14 hours. The challenge would be to keep him calm. He had to trust his as humans, not fight or flail. Trust.

[SOFT MUSIC]

The night of the move, it’s noisy and chaotic. I’ve seen the videos and it’s just manic. It doesn’t look like an aquarium or even an amusement park. It looks like a construction site, all this movement and whirring of motors and beeps and shouting and lights. Renata stayed close to Keiko, touching him, close to his eyes so he could see her.

But when it was time for him to swim into the shallow pool, where the sling awaited him, he refused. And there was nothing they could do to persuade him. Finally, a dozen people in wetsuits encircled him with a net and pulled him into place.

In the shallow pool, Renata and the other trainer dried him off before applying moisturizer all over his body, actually, the same stuff you might put on a baby to protect from diaper rash.

renata fernandez

You need his skin to be protected. So we were rubbing hard, thick, thick cream all over his body. And we would be talking to him the whole time, the whole time. But I was just thinking about him and how nervous he was getting.

So he started crying a little bit because he was nervous. And everybody was so nervous. And you can transfer that to Keiko, obviously. So there are moments where you’re just hoping that he just relaxes.

daniel alarcón

Once Keiko was in the sling, it was attached to a crane that lifted him out of the pool, and placed him in a shipping container filled with 3,000 pounds of fresh-water ice. The container sat on the back of a tractor trailer, ready for the hour or so drive across the city, to the airport. Once there, it would be loaded onto a giant cargo plane. David convinced UPS to deliver Keiko to Oregon for free.

When the caravan finally left, there were crowds, more than they’d expected, ordinary people who loved this killer whale, whole families, children who dragged their parents out in the middle of the night to say goodbye, all gathered just outside the gates of the Reino Aventura parking lot, so many that police had to move them just so the caravan could pass.

And they soon discovered it wasn’t just at the gates that the crowds had gathered. It was everywhere. I’ve talked to a lot of people who were there that night, lining the streets, desperate to say their farewells. One person told me the only thing he could compare it to was the time the Pope visited Mexico City.

The route to the airport was supposed to be secret. But that’s not how it worked out. Reporters kept the city abreast of the caravan’s progress.

archived recording 9

[SPEAKING SPANISH]

daniel alarcón

There were thousands of people lining the streets —

[SPANISH CHANTING]

— boys in their pajamas carrying handwritten signs and girls in pigtails carrying Mexican flags, teens shouting and calling Keiko’s name. You have to wonder if the whale could hear them chanting, [SPEAKING SPANISH], he should stay, he should stay.

archived recording 10

[SPEAKING SPANISH]

daniel alarcón

Then, somewhere along the slow, ponderous route to the airport, there was a mariachi band playing an old song about a loved one’s goodbye, “Las Golondrinas.”

Where can the tired swallow go, say the lyrics, tossed by the wind with nowhere to hide

Remember my Homeland, Beloved Pilgrim, and cry

Cars and mopeds follow the procession, drivers waving, honking their horns.

[HORNS HONKING]

Honestly, it’s a little bit mad, the emotion on people’s faces, the palpable sense of loss. Dave says some people had to be peeled off Keiko’s container as they tried to climb it. The procession just creeps along as best they can, through the impossibly crowded late-night streets, a city, a country, saying goodbye to its beloved whale.

archived recording 11

[SPEAKING SPANISH]

[SPANISH SINGING]

renata fernandez

We would see all these people in the street, with signs — I just want to cry, just to remember about it — and people waving and crying and screaming, like goodbye. It was so, so emotional. I was sad and happy at the same time because we’re all doing this because we hope he’s going to be OK. But it was for Mexicans to say goodbye to the only, obviously, orca that they would ever have.

[UPBEAT MUSIC]

daniel alarcón

The UPS plane carrying Keiko to his new home, leaves at around 5:00 in the morning, more than three hours behind schedule, just before a beautiful Mexican sunrise. Only Keiko’s veterinarians fly with him. Renata and Dave fly alongside, in another aircraft, close enough to see Keiko’s plane from their window. Keiko no longer belonged to Reino Aventura, much less to Mexico. He belonged to the story being told about him, the uncertain real-life sequel to the movie that had made him a star, only more far fetched and with no happy ending assured.

dave phillips

It’s kind of funny because it was part of the movie narrative. They were like, how far would you go for a whale? He went as far as getting him, raising up his arm, and saying some magical words, and having Willie jump over the breakwater into freedom. Simplistic? Yes. But that’s what our narrative was too. How far could Keiko go?

daniel alarcón

For the moment, no one knew. That’s on the next episode of The Good Whale.

archived recording 12

The story we were telling was a beautiful story of things going right, a simple story, but —

archived recording 13

He was the absolute worst candidate for a project like that.

archived recording 14

Come on, Keiko, do it, Do it, Keiko! Here he goes, here he goes. There. No, little late, little late.

dave phillips

My comment was, that’s not a killer whale. That’s a golden retriever.

daniel alarcón

“New York Times” all access and audio subscribers can binge all episodes of The Good Whale right now on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Just head to the link in our show notes and subscribe. Or if you’re already a subscriber to “The Times,” link your account.

Also, sign up for our newsletter, where each week, we’ll be sharing photos and behind-the-scenes info on The Good Whale. This week, we’ve got photos and links to video from Keiko’s life at Reino Aventura, the place he called home for more than a decade. You should definitely check it out.

The link to sign up is also in our show notes. Or go to nytimes.com/serialnewsletter. And there’s a Spanish language version of this first episode that we produced for my other podcast, “Radio Ambulante.” You can look for that at radioambulante.org.

The Good Whale is written by me, Daniel Alarcón, and reported by me and Katie Mingle. The show is produced by Katie and Alissa Shipp. Jen Guerra is our editor. Additional editing from Julie Snyder and Ira Glass. Sound design, music supervision and mixing by Phoebe Wang. The original score for the good whale comes from La Chica and Hausmane. Our theme music is by Nick Thorburn and additional music from Matt McGinley.

The song “Las Golondrinas” in today’s episode was performed by Mariachi Hidalgo NYC. It was produced and engineered by Dan Powell, Brad Fisher, and Pat McCusker. Research and fact checking by Jane Ackerman with help from Ben Phelan. Tracking direction by Elna Baker. Susan Wessling is our standards editor. Legal review from Al-Amyn Sumar and Simone Procas.

Carlos López Estrada is a contributing editor on the series. The supervising producer for Serial Productions is Ndeye Thioubou. Mack Miller is the executive assistant for Serial. Liz Davis-Moorer is the senior operations manager.

Special Thanks to Lauren Shuler-Donner, Jennie Lew Tugend, Nina Litvak, Rob Friedman, Jose Solorzano, Kenneth Brower, Dahlia Kozlowsky, Pablo Argüelles, and Katie Fuchs. The Good Whale is from Serial Productions and “The New York Times.”

[SOFT MUSIC]

How Much Is Too Much to Pay for Concert Tickets?

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How Much Is Too Much to Pay for Concert Tickets?

$500. $1,000. $5,000.

This is how much it can cost to see Taylor Swift, Beyoncé or Bruce Springsteen live. And that’s before adding on any other expenses, like transportation, lodging or merchandise. Going to a live concert used to be a lot less expensive than it is today, yet many concertgoers are still willing to pay these eye-popping prices for tickets.

In your opinion, how much is too much to spend on concert tickets? Are these prices worth it to see your favorite artists live?

In “Concert Ticket Prices Are Soaring, and Busting Gen Z’s Budgets,” Melissa Rohman writes:

Ignacio Vasquez spent the last year saving money for tickets to Beyoncé’s Cowboy Carter tour, which will kick off next month. Mr. Vasquez, 20, a full-time student from Modesto, Calif., was on the lookout for tickets to one of the tour’s five shows at SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles for him and his sister.

“I went to go see Beyoncé on the Renaissance tour, and since I knew this was coming up, I knew I had to be saving,” Mr. Vasquez said.

On Feb. 11, Mr. Vasquez got on Ticketmaster’s online queue for the BeyHive presale, offered exclusively to those who signed up on Beyoncé’s website. After waiting his turn, Mr. Vasquez was surprised to see tickets listed at a minimum of $600 each and many at more than $1,000.

In recent years, concertgoers have paid eye-popping prices for tickets to see popular artists like Beyoncé, Taylor Swift and Oasis on tour. But Gen Z fans — those born between 1997 and 2012 — are paying much more for concert tickets than previous generations did when they were young adults. In 1996, the average ticket price for the top 100 tours was $25.81, or about $52 adjusted for inflation, according to data compiled by Pollstar, a trade publication that covers the live music industry. By 2024, average ticket prices had risen to $135.92. The live music industry has put today’s young adults in an impossibly expensive position.

For Gen Z, spending on concerts can be a budget buster. In a survey of 1,000 Gen Z respondents published last year by Merge, a marketing agency, 86 percent admitted to overspending on live events. Fear of missing out, or FOMO, was cited as a top reason. Another survey by AAA, the automobile owners group, and Bread Financial, a financial services company, found that Gen Z and millennials were willing to spend more and travel farther to attend live events than older generations are.

Students, read the entire article and then tell us:

  • Do you enjoy watching musicians perform live? Have you ever gone to a concert? What was the experience like?

  • How does attending a live show change the experience of listening to music? Do you prefer seeing big stars perform in stadiums and arenas, or less well-known musicians playing in smaller venues? Why?

  • In your opinion, what are concert tickets worth? How much is too much to pay?

  • What is your reaction to the people in their 20s profiled in the article who have been saving for months, or even going into debt, so they can buy concert tickets?

  • If you could see any musician perform live, who would it be and why? How much would you pay?


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Red, White and Blue

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Red, White and Blue

What do you think this illustration is communicating? How does it relate to or comment on society or current events? Can you relate to it personally? What is your opinion of its message?

Tell us in the comments, and then read the related Opinion essay to learn more.


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Word of the Day: insouciant

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Word of the Day: insouciant

The word insouciant has appeared in 22 articles on NYTimes.com in the past year, including on Dec. 13 in “36 Things That Stuck With Us in 2024.” The article includes a brief description by Zachary Woolfe, the classical music critic of The New York Times, about a lyric from a pop song:

The earworm that stuck in me this year was an insouciant, playground-sing-song line from “360,” the first track on Charli XCX’s summer blockbuster “Brat.” Even knowing that “I’m everywhere, I’m so Julia” refers to the it-girl model and actress Julia Fox, Charli’s friend, doesn’t make the surreal expression any less sweetly enigmatic, as her name is lingered over for eight delicious, karaoke-ready syllables.

Can you correctly use the word insouciant in a sentence?

Based on the definition and example provided, write a sentence using today’s Word of the Day and share it as a comment on this article. It is most important that your sentence makes sense and demonstrates that you understand the word’s definition, but we also encourage you to be creative and have fun.

If you want a better idea of how insouciant can be used in a sentence, read these usage examples on Vocabulary.com. You can also visit this guide to learn how to use IPA symbols to show how different words are pronounced.

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Do You Have a ‘Third Place’?

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Do You Have a ‘Third Place’?

Besides home and school, where do you go to gather with others on a regular basis?

Maybe it’s the football field where you practice daily, a recreation center where you hang out with your friends after school, the local library where you go to study, a restaurant or store where you and your family are regulars or your place of worship.

How often do you go there? Who do you see or spend time with there? What does that place mean to you?

These spaces are often known as “third places,” and some say they’re disappearing. In “Where Have All the ‘Third Places’ Gone?,” Ephrat Livni explains:

The term “third place” was coined by the urban sociologist Ray Oldenburg in his 1989 book, “The Great Good Place.” It refers to spaces outside of home and work (one’s first and second places) where friends and strangers can gather unrushed — like cafes, bars, hair salons, dog parks and gyms. In some conceptions, the term refers to places where you don’t have to buy anything to hang out.

Mr. Oldenburg’s coinage filled a linguistic gap — the value of public gathering spaces was well known but there was no term for it. His phrase took hold and remains popular.

The article continues:

Gwendolyn Purifoye, an assistant professor at the University of Notre Dame, examined the pandemic’s impact on third places in a September article in the journal Visual Studies. The physical constraints created by Covid protocols, she noted, kept people away from their favorite spots and ultimately led many businesses to shutter, a permanent loss for communities.

Dr. Purifoye said in an interview that she had come to appreciate at least one virtual third place in her life — an online writing workshop that started during the pandemic and that she still attends. Community, she believes, can be created in digital spaces.

Still, she said, “Public leisure space is critical for society. If you don’t build places to gather, it makes us more strange, and strangeness creates anxiety.”

For an example of one such place, just look to Joann, the arts-and-crafts retail giant that announced last month it would be closing all 800 of its stores. In “Joann Is More Than a Chain Store to ‘Heartbroken’ Regulars,” Alex Vadukul examines what this closure means to the people who shopped there:

To its loyal customer base, the news represented more than just the decline of a chain that sells yarn, art supplies, sewing machines and fabrics. It also symbolized the demise of a sanctuary for those who find joy in the therapeutic hobby of creation.

Jen Clapp, a longtime quilter and former fiber optics salesperson who lives in Northern Kentucky, mourned the expected end of the Joann she had been visiting since she was a girl. Back then, it was known as Jo-Ann Fabrics.

“My friends who don’t quilt have been texting me to ask, ‘I just heard what happened — are you OK?’” Ms. Clapp said. “And no, I’m not OK. I’m heartbroken. My grandmother took me to that Joann, and I still go to it. Back then it opened up my world to quilting, seeing a whole wall full of calico cotton, and it’s been my go-to Joann ever since.”

Students, read one or both articles and then tell us:

  • Now that you better understand the term “third place,” what would you say is yours? Is it online or in-person? Do you have one at all?

  • If you do have one, what does this place mean to you? How has it shaped who you are? What memories do you have there? What would it be like if you were to lose that place, like the Joann customers have lost theirs?

  • Ray Oldenburg, the sociologist who coined the term “third place,” challenged the notion that virtual spaces can create community in the same way that physical spaces can. Gwendolyn Purifoye, an assistant professor at the University of Notre Dame, believes they can. What do you think? How do online gathering places compare with real-life ones?

  • “Public leisure space is critical for society,” Dr. Purifoye said. “If you don’t build places to gather, it makes us more strange, and strangeness creates anxiety.” What is your response to that statement? Do you agree? How do you think a lack of public gathering spaces might affect our lives?

  • If you don’t have a third place, do these articles inspire you to try to find — or perhaps create — one? Where do you think you might be able to feel the sense of community, belonging or sanctuary that you desire?


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‘Bed Party’

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‘Bed Party’

Imagine you just got into the college of your dreams: How would you celebrate?

Cartwheels in the backyard? Shouting through the halls of your apartment? A night on the town dancing? A quiet gathering with close friends?

How about a “bed party?”

According to a recent Times article, more and more parents are “tricking out their children’s bedrooms to celebrate college acceptances, sometimes spending thousands of dollars.”

What might a bed party include? University merchandise, balloons, streamers, sweatshirts, T-shirts, house slippers, candy and just about anything else one can buy in a particular school’s colors.

What do you think of this trend? Would you want a bed party?

How do you celebrate your important accomplishments and milestones? Do you tend toward the extravagant or the modest? What’s your dream celebration?

Tell us in the comments, and then read the related article about the lavish, colorful and costly trend of bed parties.


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Word of the Day: ostentatiously

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Word of the Day: ostentatiously

The word ostentatiously has appeared in 25 articles on NYTimes.com in the past year, including on Nov. 5 in “Fifth Avenue: The ‘Street of Dreams’ for Over a Century” by Charles V. Bagli:

As department stores (Altman’s, Lord & Taylor), hotels and office building also moved onto Fifth Avenue, wealthy families continued moving farther north, finally breaching 59th Street in the 1890s as the ostentatiously grand mansions became the fashion.

Can you correctly use the word ostentatiously in a sentence?

Based on the definition and example provided, write a sentence using today’s Word of the Day and share it as a comment on this article. It is most important that your sentence makes sense and demonstrates that you understand the word’s definition, but we also encourage you to be creative and have fun.

If you want a better idea of how ostentatiously can be used in a sentence, read these usage examples on Vocabulary.com. You can also visit this guide to learn how to use IPA symbols to show how different words are pronounced.

If you enjoy this daily challenge, try our vocabulary quizzes.


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The Word of the Day is provided by Vocabulary.com. Learn more and see usage examples across a range of subjects in the Vocabulary.com Dictionary. See every Word of the Day in this column.

11 Common Obstacles of Those Struggling to Learn Code

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11 Common Obstacles of Those Struggling to Learn Code

Learning to code can be challenging. Not only do you have to learn syntax, but there are so many new concepts to learn as well, and many of them don’t relate to anything else you’ve studied in the past.

Struggling to learn code is completely normal and expected. Most beginners go through at least one rough patch (and often several) while they’re learning to code, but the good news is that a lot of these rough patches involve similar obstacles. Even professional developers with years of experience run into some of these problems.

In this article, we look at 11 of the top obstacles beginners face when they’re learning how to code, and how to overcome them.

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1. You have trouble finding the time to code

For many aspiring developers, it can be challenging to find the time you need to learn how to code. The key to overcoming this obstacle is to have a goal in mind. Envision where you’ll be when you’ve mastered a new programming language and all the new opportunities you’ll have with your new skills.

If that seems too far away, you could focus on building a coding passion project. While you might’ve already completed a few projects in your coursework, finding a project you’re excited about will help keep you motivated and engaged in your learning.

It’s also worth keeping in mind that finding the time to learn any new skill ultimately comes down to discipline. Try looking at your schedule, especially when you have nothing to do or when you’re switching from one task to another. Most people can find time if they look.

Once you find a good time to study, stick to it. Learning only when you can find the time never works. Make the time.

2. You want to learn too fast

Being motivated to learn how to code will help you get through the rough spots, but you can also take it too far. When you’re learning to code, you have to crawl before you can walk. Remember — you’ll get there, but you need to start with the basics and build your skills. Many of the courses in our course catalog are designed for beginners and will make sure you start your coding education with a firm foundation.

Many learners ambitiously tackle advanced concepts without mastering the basics, which leads to frustration and quitting. It’s crucial to first build a strong foundation by thoroughly understanding fundamental principles before moving on to more complex topics. This approach will provide a solid groundwork and make advanced concepts easier to comprehend and apply effectively. 

3. You get frustrated

If you ask a seasoned developer, we’re willing to bet they’ll tell you that getting frustrated with coding is simply part of the process, and it’s something you have to get used to.

Just remember that you’re a beginner. Everyone was “bad” at coding in the beginning. You can always ask team members, the coding community, or the QA department for help. (See #9.)

Also, know that every company building applications today usually has a QA department working full-time. So bugs are expected, even in code written by professional developers.

4. You are afraid of making mistakes

We’re conditioned to be afraid of the color red because of its strong associations with DANGER, WARNING, STOP. It’s so easy to carry this mindset over to coding that many new programmers get discouraged and distraught over the red error messages their compilers spit out.

So, you might think, “oh no, I’ve done something wrong again,” but even the most experienced programmers, encounter errors all the time. In fact, believe it or not, experienced programmers likely encounter far more errors than a new programmer ever will. If you find yourself getting scared or frustrated, rest assured that with coding, error messages aren’t a bad thing.

5. Imposter syndrome grabs ahold of you

When coding becomes a struggle, you might think you aren’t cut out for a career as a developer. This lack of confidence is common, especially when you’re just starting out. In fact, it even has a name — impostor syndrome. But, don’t give up! If you fail, that’s okay. You may even find that you learn more from your mistakes.

Sarai Fernandez, Codecademy’s Computer Science and AI Domain Manager, recommends reframing the way you view failure. “If I try and fail, I’ll be in the same place I would have been if I didn’t try at all,” she says. “At least, if I try, there’s a chance at success. Realizing that failure usually has the same exact result as not trying at all has helped trying and failure seem less ‘scary’ to me. After all, not trying isn’t scary, so why should failure be?”

6. You use Google to help you code a lot

If you’re someone who turns to Google for help when you’re stuck, you might think this means you’ll never cut it as a developer. Wrong! You’ve just stumbled upon the #1 tool in the professional developer’s toolbox.

Even coding tests in many technical interviews will allow you to search with Google. The syntax, keywords, and methods of programming languages are hard to remember, but as long as you know where to look for the answer, you’re on the right path.

Malachi Constant, another member of our forums, agrees with this:

“Wholeheartedly agree though, it can be frustrating sometimes too buuut a large part of coding is figuring out the problem and a whole lot of googling/stack overflow…”

7. You aren’t motivated to learn

A lack of motivation makes it especially hard to learn to code. While we all have different things that get us motivated, one thing that might help you is to surround yourself with people who are passionate about coding.

Try socializing with other developers who are building something interesting, and pick up some of their excitement to learn. Find a time slot every day to code and put it on your calendar. As you build your skills daily, you’ll be able to do more things with code and see the possibilities, which will fuel your motivation.

8. You have trouble remembering what you learn

Learning to code is slightly different than learning other topics that require a lot of memorization. With programming, the best way to learn and retain your new skills is by writing code.

Programming is a very abstract subject. You’re turning text into actions and graphics on the computer, representing something in the physical world. There are at least two layers of abstractions here, and getting your hands dirty with code will help everything “click.” Try some coding challenges and complete some coding projects to practice.

In our forums, toastedpitabread suggests this:

“Take notes, but they don’t have to be on paper. Good note taking is essential to getting the most out of your study. Sometimes it’s good to take notes while studying, sometimes it’s good after. I find that audio memos help me tremendously, and for certain things, even video notes help me also. ‘Talking’ a problem out while drawing it on paper is another good thing to try if you haven’t.”

We also have a complete guide to remembering everything when you’re learning to code.

9. You don’t know who to ask for help

We’ve already told you one of the secrets of professional programmers: Google is their best friend. But, many of them also turn to Stack Overflow.

Stack Overflow is a great resource for developers. Every dev has issues once in a while, and the Stack Overflow coding community is happy to help you find the answer. All you have to do is ask.

While we’re on the topic of asking, check out our own coding forum, where you can find help from other coders who are on the same path as you.

Roy, who we heard from earlier, puts it this way:

“Your community is here for that exact reason. Mind, because there is a huge diversity of expression, we might have to grow a thick skin and learn tolerance and empathy. It also means we have to be willing to admit confusion. Nobody is judging our code on anything but its own merit. That never reflects on the writer.”

10. You don’t know what technology to start with

It can be difficult to decide which programming language to learn and which one matches your strengths and interests. It can also be challenging to figure out exactly what you’ll be able to do with your new skills. And all this confusion can, understandably, lead to indecision.

While there are a number of programming languages that we recommend learning first, you can also take our sorting quiz, which will recommend a language that’s right for you and your approach to problem-solving.​​ The good news? You really can’t choose the “wrong” language when you’re first starting out. All programming languages share common concepts, and programmers typically need to know multiple languages.

11. You don’t know what you should be learning

If you’re not sure what you should be learning, one trick is to narrow down your interests. Are you more interested in web development or mobile development? Do you want to create video games or get into machine learning?

Once you’ve narrowed this down, you can start researching specific job titles and looking at the skills you’ll need for those roles. You can also look into our Career Paths, which include courses that teach the skills you’ll need to successfully start out on your new journey. Here are a few of the Career Paths we offer:

Codecademy can help those struggling to learn code

Running into obstacles as you code doesn’t just happen to beginners. All programmers — even those who’ve been coding for years — struggle from time to time. It’s completely normal and expected, and the key to overcoming those struggles is to stick with it. You’ll get there with patience and dedication.

Still, there’s a difference between learning on your own and being guided along the right course while you learn. Here at Codecademy, many of our coding courses are designed specifically for beginners. Try one of our courses, and if you need support along the way, you can find peers who have made it through the struggles you’re going through and are willing to help out in our forums.

This blog was originally published in December 2021, and has been updated to include more common obstacles of those learning to code.